[dbsb3233]

So I see that the range shrinks about 10% if choosing the AWD option (270 miles instead of 300 with the bigger battery). I chose the RWD option mostly for that reason (if we ever take it on longer trips, an extra 30 miles could end up saving an entire charging stop, which would be huge). But then I got to thinking about it. I get that adding the 2nd motor is going to use more juice to provide better acceleration, but I wonder if that really drains more at steady highway speeds?

For in-town driving (lots of start-stop where the 2nd motor would drain more from better acceleration), losing 10% doesn't matter since I'm just recharging in the garage at home nightly anyway (270 is plenty). But if one is taking a long trip at highway speeds, will we really lose that 10%? I wonder if that 10% range drop is really just a result of using combined city/highway calculation?

But on the other hand, there's almost no braking regen on long highway trips, so maybe it's actually worse than 270?

 

[Billyk24]

Regenerative charging does/can occur on the highway by just letting up on the "gas" pedal. Driven a hybrid since 2007 and PHEV since 2018. Actually recharged the PHEV HVB battery from 20% to 90% while driving on the interstate and without stopping! There are some tricks and hints to make this occur-mostly where there is rolling or more terrain.

 

[dbsb3233]

But that's just shifting from the hybrid gas engine, right? In other words, in a pure BEV all the power ultimately comes from the batteries, so unless you're going downhill there's no way you're putting more juice in than you're taking out (a net gain). You might get little short regen stints on the down part of rolling hills but only from what you took out to climb up the hill in the first place (unlike a hybrid where gas may get you up the hill, thus you get a net gain recharge of the batteries).

 

[eastern refugee]

I will NEVER drive anything that is NOT AWD. It has a much better, safer driving experience especially on long drives. Bad weather especially but in dry weather I want to make a quick lane change I think and the whole car moves almost sideways.

 

[Cowherd.J]

I will NEVER drive anything that is NOT AWD. It has a much better, safer driving experience especially on long drives. Bad weather especially but in dry weather I want to make a quick lane change I think and the whole car moves almost sideways.

With most of my cars, if I have the option of AWD I got and get it. It makes such a big difference if you live in a place with bad weather. If I lived somewhere that's always sunny then I'd get RWD.

 

[dbsb3233]

I did find the specs on the motors noted in one of the review videos. All models have a 210 kw motor on the rear axle. AWD models add a 59 kw motor to the front axle, while the GT adds a 210 in the front. That's why the GT gets the 3.5 second 0-60 speed while the regular AWD doesn't.

 

[Marki]

So I see that the range shrinks about 10% if choosing the AWD option (270 miles instead of 300 with the bigger battery). I chose the RWD option mostly for that reason (if we ever take it on longer trips, an extra 30 miles could end up saving an entire charging stop, which would be huge). But then I got to thinking about it. I get that adding the 2nd motor is going to use more juice to provide better acceleration, but I wonder if that really drains more at steady highway speeds?

For in-town driving (lots of start-stop where the 2nd motor would drain more from better acceleration), losing 10% doesn't matter since I'm just recharging in the garage at home nightly anyway (270 is plenty). But if one is taking a long trip at highway speeds, will we really lose that 10%? I wonder if that 10% range drop is really just a result of using combined city/highway calculation?

But on the other hand, there's almost no braking regen on long highway trips, so maybe it's actually worse than 270?

Hi My FE has close to 600 miles right now. I am charging at home, getting about 3 miles per hour charging this way. I am going to try and keep max charge at about 90%. I was surprised today to see 99% charge and 299 miles range. This is more than I expected. Anyone else getting similar numbers?

 

[Summerlin Bob]

Hi My FE has close to 600 miles right now. I am charging at home, getting about 3 miles per hour charging this way. I am going to try and keep max charge at about 90%. I was surprised today to see 99% charge and 299 miles range. This is more than I expected. Anyone else getting similar numbers? View attachment 4863

I've been peaking out at at 279 Range on my RWD/ER but most of my driving has been local. I'll be curious to see what occurs on my 385 mile trip this weekend.

 

[Niels]

I've been peaking out at at 279 Range on my RWD/ER but most of my driving has been local. I'll be curious to see what occurs on my 385 mile trip this weekend.

When you originally reset your driver profile, was your range higher? I picked up my RWD/ER yesterday and the range is showing 270, its almost like my Win was pinged to the AWD/ER instead of the RWD/ER.

 

[Niels]

Hi My FE has close to 600 miles right now. I am charging at home, getting about 3 miles per hour charging this way. I am going to try and keep max charge at about 90%. I was surprised today to see 99% charge and 299 miles range. This is more than I expected. Anyone else getting similar numbers? View attachment 4863

What was your original reset milage?

 

[Diogenes]

So I see that the range shrinks about 10% if choosing the AWD option (270 miles instead of 300 with the bigger battery). I chose the RWD option mostly for that reason (if we ever take it on longer trips, an extra 30 miles could end up saving an entire charging stop, which would be huge). But then I got to thinking about it. I get that adding the 2nd motor is going to use more juice to provide better acceleration, but I wonder if that really drains more at steady highway speeds?

For in-town driving (lots of start-stop where the 2nd motor would drain more from better acceleration), losing 10% doesn't matter since I'm just recharging in the garage at home nightly anyway (270 is plenty). But if one is taking a long trip at highway speeds, will we really lose that 10%? I wonder if that 10% range drop is really just a result of using combined city/highway calculation?

But on the other hand, there's almost no braking regen on long highway trips, so maybe it's actually worse than 270?

AWD adds more weight in the form of a front motor. All things being equal, AWD will always have shorter range. Can't cheat physics. F=ma, W=Fd.

That said, In Northern climates, AWD, aside from just being better in wet/snow/ice conditions, will get better resale value for the $2,700 premium.

Question is.... given YOUR day/day driving and road trip requirements, how often do you think you'll run into a situation where an extra 20 minute charging stop is required? 2x/year or 20x/year?

 

[MachDrive]

I traveled 171 miles using 53% of the battery last week (somewhere between 3.5 and 3.6 miles per kWh). Or 308-316 miles range. Not bad for my AWD/ER that is rated @ 270. Screenshot below.

This week, i am between 3.9-4.2. I believe I am capable of pulling 350 miles out of my AWD/ER in optimum temperatures like we are having. Will get my final numbers weeks end.

I am currently only charging on Friday to see how the range holds up as the battery depletes.

speed 65 and under, 50/50 city/hwy driving.