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I don't know if any of you have tried the interactive tool that Ford has for charging networks, but I just reviewed a trip that I take often because of family and was surprised at the lack of charging spots along the way (NE Ohio, through WV, and on to coastal VA). I 77S is a major interstate, and I was really surprised to find hardly any stations on the WV turnpike - you would think they would start putting them in the travel plazas and charge you an arm and a leg like they do for gas. It will be interesting to see how networks continue to evolve and get built out. It will be interesting to see how my car will plan that trip - and yes there is another route but it goes through DC, and who wants to do THAT? It will also be interesting to see how long the "free" stations stay free.

I also wonder why other than allowing you to see the true DC fast stations and filter by that, they don't give the level of the other stations on the map.

Here's a link to the map.

 

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I think Ford's map (at least the one you've linked) is just a simple skin over plugshare.com's map data. Check out PlugShare. It has details about each charger, including check-ins from drivers using their app.

Another interesting tool is abetterrouteplanner.com. Tough to figure out how to use it, but it has really fine grained route planning controls. PlugShare has some route planning functionality, too, if you create a free account.
 

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I don't know if any of you have tried the interactive tool that Ford has for charging networks, but I just reviewed a trip that I take often because of family and was surprised at the lack of charging spots along the way (NE Ohio, through WV, and on to coastal VA). I 77S is a major interstate, and I was really surprised to find hardly any stations on the WV turnpike - you would think they would start putting them in the travel plazas and charge you an arm and a leg like they do for gas. It will be interesting to see how networks continue to evolve and get built out. It will be interesting to see how my car will plan that trip - and yes there is another route but it goes through DC, and who wants to do THAT? It will also be interesting to see how long the "free" stations stay free.

I also wonder why other than allowing you to see the true DC fast stations and filter by that, they don't give the level of the other stations on the map.

Here's a link to the map.

I do see a submission form on the EA, Electrify America website where anyone, even an individual, can suggest a new location for a charge station. They are still building out their network, so you can make your case for a new location.
 

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I do see a submission form on the EA, Electrify America website where anyone, even an individual, can suggest a new location for a charge station. They are still building out their network, so you can make your case for a new location.
Can I make that location my driveway, or the cul de sac in front of my house? :p
 

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I think Ford's map (at least the one you've linked) is just a simple skin over plugshare.com's map data. Check out PlugShare. It has details about each charger, including check-ins from drivers using their app.

Another interesting tool is abetterrouteplanner.com. Tough to figure out how to use it, but it has really fine grained route planning controls. PlugShare has some route planning functionality, too, if you create a free account.
thr problem with those is that they show free chargers as well which could be a serious issue as you don’t know if working or not. EA tells you like Tesla how many chargers and how many are empty.
 

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thr problem with those is that they show free chargers as well which could be a serious issue as you don’t know if working or not. EA tells you like Tesla how many chargers and how many are empty.
This is a current problem: It's a bit of the Wild West out there on the road as EVgo gives you current information on EVgo, ChargePoint for ChargePoint, etc. It will be interesting to see if the Ford app has realtime updates of station status -- and if the information is reliable.
 

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thr problem with those is that they show free chargers as well which could be a serious issue as you don’t know if working or not. EA tells you like Tesla how many chargers and how many are empty.
BINGO. People need to stop looking for FREE. The old adage still Apply’s. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Use EA app. It tells you where they are and it has the Mach but there mileage is much higher then ford which I personally find fascinating. So to you the app change the setting to be what Ford states it is which I think will actually be lower then reality.
 

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Looks like in West Virginia a home charger is a must, i hope you have that option for you. I just did a test from Ranger, WV to Shanks, WV, 276 mile trip cutting straight through the State.
there were no FordPass in network or fast-chargers available.
interestingly, though. There were 12 charge locations along the route, all free of cost.
I hope the States like this that are behind on their charge networks will get the ball rolling soon.
When EVs like the upcoming F150 arrive, there may be more effort on these networks.
 

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It seems ridiculous to me when we have standardized products. Why all the chargers, tesla, ford etc won't work on all EVs. I get the manuf, not wanting to do it, but from a consumer standpoint it seems silly to have tesla charge ports, ford charge ports, chevy etc. Just think how much easier it'd be to travel. Realistically I can't imagine using an EV for long trips.
 

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It seems ridiculous to me when we have standardized products. Why all the chargers, tesla, ford etc won't work on all EVs. I get the manuf, not wanting to do it, but from a consumer standpoint it seems silly to have tesla charge ports, ford charge ports, chevy etc. Just think how much easier it'd be to travel. Realistically I can't imagine using an EV for long trips.
Actually there exists only 2 types of chargers today. Tesla and the rest of the world.
 

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Actually there exists only 2 types of chargers today. Tesla and the rest of the world.
I see, so we need an enterprising company to set up nationwide networks with charging stations that work for tesla and other EVs.
 

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I see, so we need an enterprising company to set up nationwide networks with charging stations that work for tesla and other EVs.
Any CCS station will do that now that Tesla was forced to build the CCS1 adapter for the Korean market which will also work in US market.
 

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Any CCS station will do that now that Tesla was forced to build the CCS1 adapter for the Korean market which will also work in US market.
Tesla makes an adapter that will charge all makes but if I understand correctly it will not work on a Tesla super charger. Supposedly they have level 2 chargers which I have no idea what they look like since everyone i see says supercharger. If you happen to find a Tesla level 2 charger then the adapter which costs $25.00 will work
 

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Earlier in the thread they mentioned a phone app for the charging network for ford, I can't find anything on my app store, could someone list the app name?
 

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Tesla makes an adapter that will charge all makes but if I understand correctly it will not work on a Tesla super charger.
All Teslas work on Tesla fast dc chargers. Korea announced it was choosing CCS1 the same as US but making it regulatory requirement so Tesla has to supply a socket and/or adapter so Tesla's in Korea can use the CCS1 chargers.

A Korean company popped up selling a Tesla/CCS1 adapter allowing Tesla's to charge at CCS1 adapters. A couple of the EV media tried it and it worked as advertised (up to 200kW charging). Suspicion is it is a knockoff of what Tesla will sell (it matches Tesla's kludgy Chademo adapter) as the CCS1 adapter.

Tesla itself has not shown it's CCS1 adapter. It's CCS2 adapter in US is smaller and just $200.
 

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Tesla makes an adapter that will charge all makes but if I understand correctly it will not work on a Tesla super charger. Supposedly they have level 2 chargers which I have no idea what they look like since everyone i see says supercharger. If you happen to find a Tesla level 2 charger then the adapter which costs $25.00 will work
Here's a Tesla destination charger:
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and here's the TeslaTap adapter that allows you to charge any non-Tesla EV off a destination charger.
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