As part of the news that Ford is partnering with Electrify America, here is what the wall-mounted wall charger is going to look like from Ford.
I'm thinking of getting Juice Box Next Generation 40 amp Plug In Model ($600) (9.6 kW) that plugs into a NEMA 14-50 receptacle. So I can put in a 50 amp circuit and with this receptacle can either use the Ford Mobile Charger or the Juice Box with one circuit.i have to see what this costs and what type of automations are available. I may opt for a charge-point or a juice-box instead.
My recommendation is to definitely go with the 50 amp circuit rather than the 40 amp. The extra cost will be very little (mostly in the heavier #6AWG wire....depends on length of run). The labor cost for a electrician should be the same for either. My 50 amp circuit breaker cost $20 and 50 amp receptacle was $10. The other parts needed are less than $20.I have a large garage and plan to charge indoors and I like the ability to take the Ford mobile charger with me.
Unless your breaker box can’t handle an additional 50 amp circuit - ours couldn’t. Expanding the service or adding a second box increases the cost considerably.My recommendation is to definitely go with the 50 amp circuit rather than the 40 amp. The extra cost will be very little (mostly in the heavier #6AWG wire....depends on length of run). The labor cost for a electrician should be the same for either. My 50 amp circuit breaker cost $20 and 50 amp receptacle was $10. The other parts needed are less than $20.
On the subject of monitoring charging via WiFi, anyone know if the FordPass app that is compatible with the Mach-E -- will that show home charging live status as well or will it only show charging status at certain public stations?I like the WiFi connectivity of the Juicebox 40 Amp unit I installed. Just something else to consider!
Unfortunately, we have yet to see details of either.On the subject of monitoring charging via WiFi, anyone know if the FordPass app that is compatible with the Mach-E -- will that show home charging live status as well or will it only show charging status at certain public stations?
You make a great point. For most people, the standard charger is all that is technically needed.Let me get this straight:
Keep in mind that those who lease can put the $799 into the lease but it will not be residualized: i.e., you will pay the full amount, $799. On a 36 month lease that will increase the monthy lease payment with sales tax by $25 a month.
- The Mustang MacHE come standard with a 32 AMP 240 volt charger convertible to 120 volt which is portable (plug in) and requires a 40 amp circuit free of charge
- Or you can buy a 48 AMP 240 volt hard wired charger that will require a 60 AMP circuit for only $799!
How many of us will need to go from 32 amps to 48 amps?
To give one answer to your question, in my experience, after about 10k EV driving miles, is that 32 amps (7 KW) is plenty.Just stumbled upon this thread: When you go to the MachE website, it is indicated that:
"the Ford Mobile Charger comes standard while the Ford Connected Charge Station is an option that fully charges your vehicle overnight*:
- Est. 21 miles of range per charging hour, using the Ford Mobile Charger in a 240V outlet*
- A slow but convenient charge, using the Ford Mobile Charger in a standard (120V) electrical outlet*
From the above, I would assume that "comes standard" means included in the purchase price.
I believe I read somewhere else, that the charging rate of the mobile device is 32 amps which would require a 40 amp circuit breaker (80%).
In my prior thread I mentioned the Juice Box, $549 from Costco, which charges at 40 amps and would need a 50 amp circuit breaker.
Using the mobile charger in a 240 volt will give me 240 miles over a 12 hour period, enough for my needs with no added or extra expense, other than my electrician setting up the 240 volt receptacle.
Am I correct?
Just went back and read the fine print:
I intend to lease and if I could put the purchase price of the home charging station into the lease and residualize it, assuming 50% residual after 3 years, that would be a bargain vs. the Juice box.
However, the fine print says:
**For Options contracts, Ford connected charging station cannot be residualized. The full purchase price must be paid within the term of the contract. Does not include installation.
So whether you buy the Juice box or the Ford Charging station, you are going to pay for it in full plus tax.
So the question then is: The mobile charger included at no extra expense charges at 32 amps. Is the extra 8 amps of the Juice box, plus extra cost of wiring going from a 40 to a 50 circuit breaker worth the extra cost?