Since Ford is partnering with Amazon for home installation you'll get more choices.
Correct. But I said more choices. Amazon has the EV Gear, same stats as the JuiceBox, for $449.99.
From the press briefings, Ford is partnering with Amazon home services to install the optional Ford-branded 48a charger and work it into the purchase agreement. You can still opt to buy other chargers and arrange installation yourself.
The Juice Box 40 Next Generation will charge at an actual 40 amps IF you have a 50 amp circuit. (40 is 80% of 50). If you have a 40 amp circuit it will only charge at 32 amps. I believe the max charge rate can be adjusted. The Costco unit above is $50 cheaper than the unit on the vendor website, however I am not sure the unit is exactly the same unit. This unit on the manufactures site and on amazon has a 25 ft charge cable. The Costco unit has only has only a 20 ft charge cable (close out ?). One advantage of this plug in unit vs Ford Connected unit is that if you have a 50 amp circuit with a NEMA 14-50 receptacle you can use either the Ford mobile charger or the Juice Box 40 Next Generation with the same circuit, but not at the same time of course. I'm not an electrician either but have spent a lot of time reading the specs and installation manual since that is what I plan to buy.
Does that EV Gear unit have the same wifi connectivity capabilities as the Juice Box 40 Next Generation unit? Just asking.
To me, they're not the same. JuiceBox is UL listed, whereas Brand Hut is only claiming that some of EV Gear's components are UL listed. In fact, prior versions of EV Gear (now sold as used items on Amazon) included unsafe accessories in the package, like a 240V to 120V adapter that excluded the neutral line, and it had a 30' cable which exceeds the allowed J1772 cable length for its form factor.
I was off on the 80%, you're correct it's 80% of the breaker not the charger. Thanks
Agree 100%. The risk/reward analysis says stay away from cheapo knockoffs.
Agreed. The real question we don't know at this point is the features the Ford unit will pack. We know what the latest, app-controlled Clipper Creek and Juice Box can do. Will the Ford offer anything more? How much will it cost?
You make a great point, while I understand that Ford may still have some unanswered issues relating to the engineering and release of the MME, at this late stage of the process they should have figured out the charging station issues. Musk is great at putting out announcements on everything that he may (or may not) have in the pipeline. I do not understand why Ford isn't making daily/weekly announcements to the various automotive publications and the dealers on what they do know about updates on the MME. A simple example of this would be that it's now months to release and perhaps 30 to 60 days to accepting orders and they still haven't announced the selling price. I don't get it.
Hey, we did find out today that the new Marketing director for electrification has lived on 5 continents, including 2 different states in the US.
Maybe that's the problem, he can't figure out what type of plug to use.
