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Lucid Air electric sedan boasts fastest-charging EV time: 300 miles in 20 minutes
Bengt Halvorson
BENGT HALVORSON AUGUST 19, 2020 10 COMMENTS
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Lucid Air


Lucid already suggested a week ago that its upcoming Air electric luxury sedan might offer the longest EPA-cycle range of any EV—an anticipated 517 miles.

Now it’s already topping that with what many electric-vehicle enthusiasts will see as an even more impressive claim: that it’s the fastest-charging EV.

Lucid announced Wednesday that the Air can recover up to 20 miles of range per minute of charging, corresponding to an actual peak charging power of more than 300 kw. While that’s a jaw-dropping potential burst rate—likely at a very specific state of charge and with ideal conditions—Lucid’s claim in real-world charging situations is unparalleled: 300 miles of estimated EPA range back in just 20 minutes.

Lucid Air
Lucid Air

That means the Air will likely require shorter stops on a road trip versus Tesla models with Supercharging V3, the Porsche Taycan, and everything else on the market.

Getting that charge rate will require a 350-kw CCS DC fast-charger, of the sort that remains relatively rare in the U.S. According to Chargeway, a software platform and app aiming to make it easier to charge, there are currently 593 active 350-kw fast-charging connectors in the U.S. Those are mostly part of the Electrify America network, but EVgo has one up and Greenlots will soon add 30.

In Chargeway’s much-simplified color-and-number language you need only look for a Green 7 to find those connectors.

350-kw DC fast-charging stations in the U.S. - Chargeway - August 2020
350-kw DC fast-charging stations in the U.S. - Chargeway - August 2020

In the Air, Lucid credits a number of factors for the charge rate. Its 900+ volt electrical architecture reduces thermal losses, as well as its sophisticated thermal management system and custom lithium-ion cells—coming from LG Chem for most models.

The onboard charger used in the Air is called Wunderbox as it combines several components into “one package-efficient and structurally integrated housing”—again, likely designed for power efficiency, too.

The Air’s AC onboard charger can handle up to 19.2 kw—suggesting 80A drawn, and a dedicated 100A home or commercial circuit to support. The payoff of such an arrangement is the recovery of up to 80 miles per hour on Level 2—approaching the rate at which some earlier EVs can recover miles via fast-charging.

It also notes that the Air will automatically boost its voltage when needed to charge at the quickest possible rate. By the sound of it that’s a big step up from the Porsche Taycan, which offers 50-kw fast-charging capability at 400V, with 150-kw capability optional.

Lucid says that the charging system has full bi-directionality for advanced V2X capabilities—including the future enablement of vehicle-to-grid (V2G) and vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) technology.

Lucid Connected Home Charging Station
Lucid Connected Home Charging Station

The Lucid Connected Home Charging Station will be, the company says, “one of the first AC charging stations with bi-directional charging ever offered.” With installation through the partner company Qmerit, bi-directional charging will allow the Air to be used as temporary power for the home or, as Lucid suggests, off-grid vacation properties.

Lucid is working on its own energy storage systems that will supplement those capabilities—and, in the future, find a second-life use for its batteries.

U.S. buyers of the Air will be able to take advantage of this very fast charging for three years on the Electrify America network free of charge.

The official virtual reveal event for the Lucid Air is just three weeks out—September 9—so expect many more details then. First deliveries of the Air, which will be built in Arizona, are due in spring 2021.
 

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Lucid Air electric sedan boasts fastest-charging EV time: 300 miles in 20 minutes
Bengt Halvorson
BENGT HALVORSON
AUGUST 19, 2020 10 COMMENTS
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Lucid Air

Lucid Air prototype

Lucid Air ADAS sensor

Lucid Air range test video  -  Richmond San Rafael Bridge

Lucid Air


Lucid already suggested a week ago that its upcoming Air electric luxury sedan might offer the longest EPA-cycle range of any EV—an anticipated 517 miles.

Now it’s already topping that with what many electric-vehicle enthusiasts will see as an even more impressive claim: that it’s the fastest-charging EV.

Lucid announced Wednesday that the Air can recover up to 20 miles of range per minute of charging, corresponding to an actual peak charging power of more than 300 kw. While that’s a jaw-dropping potential burst rate—likely at a very specific state of charge and with ideal conditions—Lucid’s claim in real-world charging situations is unparalleled: 300 miles of estimated EPA range back in just 20 minutes.

Lucid Air
Lucid Air

That means the Air will likely require shorter stops on a road trip versus Tesla models with Supercharging V3, the Porsche Taycan, and everything else on the market.

Getting that charge rate will require a 350-kw CCS DC fast-charger, of the sort that remains relatively rare in the U.S. According to Chargeway, a software platform and app aiming to make it easier to charge, there are currently 593 active 350-kw fast-charging connectors in the U.S. Those are mostly part of the Electrify America network, but EVgo has one up and Greenlots will soon add 30.

In Chargeway’s much-simplified color-and-number language you need only look for a Green 7 to find those connectors.

350-kw DC fast-charging stations in the U.S. - Chargeway - August 2020
350-kw DC fast-charging stations in the U.S. - Chargeway - August 2020

In the Air, Lucid credits a number of factors for the charge rate. Its 900+ volt electrical architecture reduces thermal losses, as well as its sophisticated thermal management system and custom lithium-ion cells—coming from LG Chem for most models.

The onboard charger used in the Air is called Wunderbox as it combines several components into “one package-efficient and structurally integrated housing”—again, likely designed for power efficiency, too.

The Air’s AC onboard charger can handle up to 19.2 kw—suggesting 80A drawn, and a dedicated 100A home or commercial circuit to support. The payoff of such an arrangement is the recovery of up to 80 miles per hour on Level 2—approaching the rate at which some earlier EVs can recover miles via fast-charging.

It also notes that the Air will automatically boost its voltage when needed to charge at the quickest possible rate. By the sound of it that’s a big step up from the Porsche Taycan, which offers 50-kw fast-charging capability at 400V, with 150-kw capability optional.

Lucid says that the charging system has full bi-directionality for advanced V2X capabilities—including the future enablement of vehicle-to-grid (V2G) and vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) technology.

Lucid Connected Home Charging Station
Lucid Connected Home Charging Station

The Lucid Connected Home Charging Station will be, the company says, “one of the first AC charging stations with bi-directional charging ever offered.” With installation through the partner company Qmerit, bi-directional charging will allow the Air to be used as temporary power for the home or, as Lucid suggests, off-grid vacation properties.

Lucid is working on its own energy storage systems that will supplement those capabilities—and, in the future, find a second-life use for its batteries.

U.S. buyers of the Air will be able to take advantage of this very fast charging for three years on the Electrify America network free of charge.

The official virtual reveal event for the Lucid Air is just three weeks out—September 9—so expect many more details then. First deliveries of the Air, which will be built in Arizona, are due in spring 2021.
If as expected the price is around $150K my hope is that they offer 30 year financing @0.9% or a 15 year lease.
 

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Charging stations at the 350kW are rare. In many rural areas, the grid can’t handle the load. This also interferes with the ‘off-grid’ vacation home example. If there is no power by you, there are most-likely no ultra-fast charging stations either.

Where I live, I would have to upgrade my home service to commercial rates (more $$) to support the home-charge speeds listed (which, if you think about it, is unnecessary if charging overnight).

I also assume this is with the optional larger battery (the one that goes 517 miles), which brings the cost way past the Model S.

These Uber-luxury vehicles are all well and good for those that can afford them. What the US market needs is an affordable BEV with decent range and charging speeds for the average Jo. This is what the VW MEB Platform promises, but has yet to deliver.
 

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Charging stations at the 350kW are rare. In many rural areas, the grid can’t handle the load. This also interferes with the ‘off-grid’ vacation home example. If there is no power by you, there are most-likely no ultra-fast charging stations either.

Where I live, I would have to upgrade my home service to commercial rates (more $$) to support the home-charge speeds listed (which, if you think about it, is unnecessary if charging overnight).

I also assume this is with the optional larger battery (the one that goes 517 miles), which brings the cost way past the Model S.

These Uber-luxury vehicles are all well and good for those that can afford them. What the US market needs is an affordable BEV with decent range and charging speeds for the average Jo. This is what the VW MEB Platform promises, but has yet to deliver.
These numbers are an indicator on where the technology is and now it will be about making it affordable for us "Po Folks"
 

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Lucid electric SUV prototype spotted testing in California
Stephen Edelstein
STEPHEN EDELSTEIN AUGUST 20, 2020

Shortly after Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlinson confirmed plans for an electric SUV to follow the automaker's Air sedan, a prototype appears to have been spotted by an eagle-eyed Twitter user.

Photos of an SUV, accompanied by a Lucid Air, on California public roads were posted by Twitter user Coast Redwoods on Friday and Saturday.

The SUV's appearance closely follows what Lucid CEO Rawlinson told Green Car Reports last week—that Lucid has a drivable SUV prototype that's based on Air and about the same length.

The photos show a very steep windshield pillar, indicating the SUV could follow the Lucid Air sedan's aerodynamic leadership. The Air's drag coefficient (Cd) of 0.21 is better than the 0.23 of the Tesla Model S. SUVs are inherently less aerodynamic than sedans, however, due to their taller, boxier bodywork—adding frontal area, even if it has a slick coefficient.


Lucid's SUV might also arrive as a family-luxury counterpoint to the rugged, more outdoor-lifestyle-oriented Rivian R1S. Rivian has said the seven-seat R1S will have up to 410 miles of range and genuine off-road capability. Based on the same "skateboard" platform as the Rivian R1T pickup truck, it's scheduled to start production in summer 2021.

CEO Rawlinson said Lucid has no current plans for a pickup, but it's an idea the company is considering. A pickup would likely need to be built on a different platform than the SUV and Air.

Tesla's closest rival in this area is the Model X, and while this model doesn't have the widespread appeal of the smaller, less expensive, Model Y, Tesla has continued to update it with more range and features and lower pricing.
 
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