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This Q&A with someone that traded in a V8 Mustang for a Mach-E covers a lot of great points.
Q: Tell me why you got rid of your V8 Mustang in favor of the Mustang Mach-E?
Jim Halderman:
I had three vehicles and I thought it was time to downsize to two because there are just the two of us at home. I had the Mustang convertible for many years because I loved having something sporty especially having a six-speed manual transmission. I had replaced the very quiet stock mufflers with Mustang GT 500 mufflers which made it sound perfect. A little rumble and some nice sounds when accelerating but quiet on the road. The new Mustang Mach E was a natural change for me because my winter vehicle was already an SUV but a boring SUV. The Mach E GT has what I like about an SUV such as the higher seating position and cargo room, plus the added benefit of the instant and rapid acceleration of the electric drivetrain.

Q: Tell me what Mach-E you ordered?
Jim
: I reserved a red Mustang Mach E GT. I wanted the fastest one available. The GT has a more powerful front motor compared to the other all-wheel- drive trim levels. I gave the local dealer the $500 deposit to reserve the GT. With the GT trim level, the only option I had at the time was color so I selected red for several reasons:
• I liked the color when I rode in a Mustang Mach E at the Chicago auto show in February. It was a nice red in my opinion as I am not a fan of the orange/red seen on many vehicles.
• I have had many black vehicles and I wanted a change.
• The read will be more visible than the black vehicle I have had previously which I think will be a safety factor as far as I am concerned
All of the options are included in the GT and all will have (at least during the introductory period) all black interiors. I like a fully loaded vehicle so this was a perfect match for me.

Q: Did you make any adaptations to your house in preparation for fast-charging?
Jim:
In preparation for the electric vehicle (EV), I had an electrical contractor install a 220-volt NEMA 14-50 outlet to my garage. It has a 60-amp circuit breaker so I can charge the vehicle up to 48 amps. I purchased a Charge Point charger that is mounted on the garage wall and plugs into the outlet. It has a cord over 20 feet long so it can reach either vehicle in my two-car garage.
I calculated that it will cost me about $10 worth of electricity to completely “fill the tank”. That is a lot less than using gasoline to travel 200+ miles.


Q: What do you think about those who say the Mach-E is not a Mustang?
Jim:
Personally, I think that Ford should have selected another name for their electric vehicle but I can also see why they decided to call it a Mustang. It does have the styling and the performance of a Mustang and by adding black to the roof makes it appear to be a fastback. Gale Halderman, my first cousin who sketched the first Mustang, told me about two years ago that he saw a four door Mustang in clay at Ford and told me it “looked pretty good.”

I was 20-something years old when I purchased my first Mustang and now 50 years later, I am ordering another Mustang that meets my needs at this time. It is very practical, has great performance and will have over the air updates making it a truly connected vehicle.

Q: Your ordered the GT over the standard what was your reason for that?
Jim:
I always try to purchase the highest trim level because let’s face it I like the “toys”. All of the options are included as part of the GT trim level. The GT also has a larger front motor giving it faster acceleration as well as the largest capacity battery.

Q: Will you add the recently announced Performance Edition to your GT?
Jim:
No and the main reason is that the Performance package (PE) includes summer tires. Summer tires do provide increased handling but because of the rubber compounding (my son was a tire development engineer) means that they should not be used when the temperature is lower than 45 degrees. Because I plan on using the Mustang Mach E GT all year, I want high-performance all-season tires. I don’t think I could tell the difference in a couple of tenths of a second zero to 60 MPH so the standard GT is for me.

Q: As someone with a vast knowledge of automotive technology, what is it about EVs that interests you?
Jim:
Why is an old guy (70 something) not the right age for a high-performance practical and economical vehicle? It is the perfect vehicle for all ages in my opinion. Flashback. When I delivered papers, I had a customer who had a Pontiac GTO. I asked him “Mr. Brown, what is a guy like you (white haired and retired) doing with a high-performance car?” He told me “I like beating high school kids at traffic lights”. I am turning into Mr. Brown.

Q: Did you consider any other vehicle, specifically the Tesla Model Y over the Mach-E?
Jim:
Yes, I did consider most options including the Tesla Model X, 3 and Y. The Tesla Model Y is almost the exact same size and performance as the Mustang Mach E plus I get a $7,500 tax benefit by purchasing the Ford compare to a Tesla. Both offer access to high-speed chargers when traveling. Ford is offering free access for a few years to the Electrify America network of chargers which make travel easier. These level 3 charging stations are capable of charging the battery from 10% to 80% is about 40 minutes. Because they are usually located near shopping and restaurants, the charging is a perfect time to take a break and eat a meal while traveling.

Q: How was your ordering process and did you work with a dealer?
Jim:
Very easy. Most do it online but I had questions so I visited my local Ford dealer and talked to the same salesperson who handled the purchase of my Mustang GT convertible eight years ago. That by itself tells you that the dealer is an excellent place to work if the sales staff is still there for many years. I used a credit card for the $500 to reserve my place for a Mustang Mach E GT in red.

Q: Last question, have you heard anything about when your Mach-E will be built/delivered?
Jim:
It has been consistently stated that the GT trim levels will be “available late summer, 2021”.
 

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This Q&A with someone that traded in a V8 Mustang for a Mach-E covers a lot of great points.
Q: Tell me why you got rid of your V8 Mustang in favor of the Mustang Mach-E?
Jim Halderman:
I had three vehicles and I thought it was time to downsize to two because there are just the two of us at home. I had the Mustang convertible for many years because I loved having something sporty especially having a six-speed manual transmission. I had replaced the very quiet stock mufflers with Mustang GT 500 mufflers which made it sound perfect. A little rumble and some nice sounds when accelerating but quiet on the road. The new Mustang Mach E was a natural change for me because my winter vehicle was already an SUV but a boring SUV. The Mach E GT has what I like about an SUV such as the higher seating position and cargo room, plus the added benefit of the instant and rapid acceleration of the electric drivetrain.

Q: Tell me what Mach-E you ordered?
Jim
: I reserved a red Mustang Mach E GT. I wanted the fastest one available. The GT has a more powerful front motor compared to the other all-wheel- drive trim levels. I gave the local dealer the $500 deposit to reserve the GT. With the GT trim level, the only option I had at the time was color so I selected red for several reasons:
• I liked the color when I rode in a Mustang Mach E at the Chicago auto show in February. It was a nice red in my opinion as I am not a fan of the orange/red seen on many vehicles.
• I have had many black vehicles and I wanted a change.
• The read will be more visible than the black vehicle I have had previously which I think will be a safety factor as far as I am concerned
All of the options are included in the GT and all will have (at least during the introductory period) all black interiors. I like a fully loaded vehicle so this was a perfect match for me.

Q: Did you make any adaptations to your house in preparation for fast-charging?
Jim:
In preparation for the electric vehicle (EV), I had an electrical contractor install a 220-volt NEMA 14-50 outlet to my garage. It has a 60-amp circuit breaker so I can charge the vehicle up to 48 amps. I purchased a Charge Point charger that is mounted on the garage wall and plugs into the outlet. It has a cord over 20 feet long so it can reach either vehicle in my two-car garage.
I calculated that it will cost me about $10 worth of electricity to completely “fill the tank”. That is a lot less than using gasoline to travel 200+ miles.


Q: What do you think about those who say the Mach-E is not a Mustang?
Jim:
Personally, I think that Ford should have selected another name for their electric vehicle but I can also see why they decided to call it a Mustang. It does have the styling and the performance of a Mustang and by adding black to the roof makes it appear to be a fastback. Gale Halderman, my first cousin who sketched the first Mustang, told me about two years ago that he saw a four door Mustang in clay at Ford and told me it “looked pretty good.”

I was 20-something years old when I purchased my first Mustang and now 50 years later, I am ordering another Mustang that meets my needs at this time. It is very practical, has great performance and will have over the air updates making it a truly connected vehicle.

Q: Your ordered the GT over the standard what was your reason for that?
Jim:
I always try to purchase the highest trim level because let’s face it I like the “toys”. All of the options are included as part of the GT trim level. The GT also has a larger front motor giving it faster acceleration as well as the largest capacity battery.

Q: Will you add the recently announced Performance Edition to your GT?
Jim:
No and the main reason is that the Performance package (PE) includes summer tires. Summer tires do provide increased handling but because of the rubber compounding (my son was a tire development engineer) means that they should not be used when the temperature is lower than 45 degrees. Because I plan on using the Mustang Mach E GT all year, I want high-performance all-season tires. I don’t think I could tell the difference in a couple of tenths of a second zero to 60 MPH so the standard GT is for me.

Q: As someone with a vast knowledge of automotive technology, what is it about EVs that interests you?
Jim:
Why is an old guy (70 something) not the right age for a high-performance practical and economical vehicle? It is the perfect vehicle for all ages in my opinion. Flashback. When I delivered papers, I had a customer who had a Pontiac GTO. I asked him “Mr. Brown, what is a guy like you (white haired and retired) doing with a high-performance car?” He told me “I like beating high school kids at traffic lights”. I am turning into Mr. Brown.

Q: Did you consider any other vehicle, specifically the Tesla Model Y over the Mach-E?
Jim:
Yes, I did consider most options including the Tesla Model X, 3 and Y. The Tesla Model Y is almost the exact same size and performance as the Mustang Mach E plus I get a $7,500 tax benefit by purchasing the Ford compare to a Tesla. Both offer access to high-speed chargers when traveling. Ford is offering free access for a few years to the Electrify America network of chargers which make travel easier. These level 3 charging stations are capable of charging the battery from 10% to 80% is about 40 minutes. Because they are usually located near shopping and restaurants, the charging is a perfect time to take a break and eat a meal while traveling.

Q: How was your ordering process and did you work with a dealer?
Jim:
Very easy. Most do it online but I had questions so I visited my local Ford dealer and talked to the same salesperson who handled the purchase of my Mustang GT convertible eight years ago. That by itself tells you that the dealer is an excellent place to work if the sales staff is still there for many years. I used a credit card for the $500 to reserve my place for a Mustang Mach E GT in red.

Q: Last question, have you heard anything about when your Mach-E will be built/delivered?
Jim:
It has been consistently stated that the GT trim levels will be “available late summer, 2021”.
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Welcome! Glad to have you here. Did you test drive the Mach-E yet?
 

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Welcome! Glad to have you here. Did you test drive the Mach-E yet?
Not really. I took it for a twirl around the basement floor inside the McCormick Convention Center. As a Mustang historian I have mixed feelings on it. But the guy I interviewed is the co-author of our book Mustang by Design. We are both Mustang historians. I'm 47 he's 75. You'd think it'd be me that would be the early adapter the one to accept it, but it's him. I am still unhappy with how they named it and marketed it. And while I disagree, I do see the genius in the method too. And I am sure it will be a blast to drive as are so many EVs.
 

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Not really. I took it for a twirl around the basement floor inside the McCormick Convention Center. As a Mustang historian I have mixed feelings on it. But the guy I interviewed is the co-author of our book Mustang by Design. We are both Mustang historians. I'm 47 he's 75. You'd think it'd be me that would be the early adapter the one to accept it, but it's him. I am still unhappy with how they named it and marketed it. And while I disagree, I do see the genius in the method too. And I am sure it will be a blast to drive as are so many EVs.
It should definitely be a blast. Ford winning over Jim Halderman, a Mustang historian like yourself is a BIG win in my books. Do you at least plan on test driving one in the near future as they roll out?
 

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It should definitely be a blast. Ford winning over Jim Halderman, a Mustang historian like yourself is a BIG win in my books. Do you at least plan on test driving one in the near future as they roll out?
I'm working with Ford's PR team to arrange that. But they're still sore with me since I've been an outspoken critic over the name. I still oppose the name, but have become resolute that it's happening. I understand why they did it, I just don't agree with it. It doesn't mean I won't be fair the vehicle or even enjoy it. I expect I will enjoy it in fact.
 

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I'm working with Ford's PR team to arrange that. But they're still sore with me since I've been an outspoken critic over the name. I still oppose the name, but have become resolute that it's happening. I understand why they did it, I just don't agree with it. It doesn't mean I won't be fair the vehicle or even enjoy it. I expect I will enjoy it in fact.
I can see how its bad for PR, still they should be confident enough in the product to let you review it. Odds are many positive things will stand out because its actually that good. Fortunately Mach-E's arriving and you might not have to depend on Ford's PR team anymore.
Any specific things you're looking forward to in person?
 

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So what is the big deal about this story? I'm sure lots of folks are trading in all sizes of ICE vehicles for EVs. My neighbor sold his V-8 Camaro to get his Tesla. So the guy is a Mustang historian. Makes him no different from lots of folks in this group downsizing from a V-8 to a MME.
 

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I can see how its bad for PR, still they should be confident enough in the product to let you review it. Odds are many positive things will stand out because its actually that good. Fortunately Mach-E's arriving and you might not have to depend on Ford's PR team anymore.
Any specific things you're looking forward to in person?
I am looking forward to seeing the infotainment system in its final iteration. I've played with it when it was a prototype. Sync 4 is very promising. Plus I want to see the final interior touchpoints as again the only one I've been was a pre-production.
 

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So what is the big deal about this story? I'm sure lots of folks are trading in all sizes of ICE vehicles for EVs. My neighbor sold his V-8 Camaro to get his Tesla. So the guy is a Mustang historian. Makes him no different from lots of folks in this group downsizing from a V-8 to a MME.
I haven't seen a V8 to EV transition like it from a publication. It might help some ICE owners looking to switch.
I am looking forward to seeing the infotainment system in its final iteration. I've played with it when it was a prototype. Sync 4 is very promising. Plus I want to see the final interior touchpoints as again the only one I've been was a pre-production.
While you wait, I suggest going through this Sync 4 presentation.
I doubt anyone has experienced it like that for themselves yet especially with all the things the R&D team points out.
Hopefully you cover some of what they brought up.
 
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